Comments on: Best Albums of the 80s http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/ For the most part, just another WordPress blog. Tue, 30 Sep 2008 23:30:12 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.2.1 By: Chris http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1810 Chris Mon, 28 Apr 2008 03:18:37 +0000 http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1810 And you'd be right. And you’d be right.

]]> By: Shaka http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1809 Shaka Mon, 28 Apr 2008 00:32:20 +0000 http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1809 if you don't use popularity as an argument, then I could say Sinister Yu is the best band of the 2000's. if you don’t use popularity as an argument, then I could say Sinister Yu is the best band of the 2000’s.

]]> By: Chris http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1808 Chris Sun, 27 Apr 2008 22:13:02 +0000 http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1808 I hate fun. I hate fun.

]]> By: Sheppard http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1807 Sheppard Sun, 27 Apr 2008 20:24:35 +0000 http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1807 Guns N' Roses temporarily saved rock and roll. Not only did they create anthems that people have been listening for years but they revived a culture that seemed to be dying. They partied hard and gave a lot of people a reason to smile. I believe but don't quote me on this, that besides Thriller, Back in Black was the highest selling album from the 80s. The guitar riffs, the lyrics, just everything about those songs makes you want to have a good time. I am not saying that all music should be happy and fun. What I am saying is that these songs have staying power. In thirty years people are still going to be listening Guns N' Roses, AC/DC, ZZ Top, Billy Joel, etc. I don't think popular appeal should matter all that much either. However, it is really hard to argue for something to be on a top ten list that seems like it has fallen off the face of the earth. Personally I blame the radio. I mean the only classic culture that I can listen to is classic rock. An alternative station from the 80s would be nice. I just haven't had the same type of exposure to it. I mean I love music and I love to sit and explore new things, but I have a lot of stuff I have to do. Somehow it just becomes easier to determine what you like when you can here something when your on the move, without having to pay for it. Guns N’ Roses temporarily saved rock and roll. Not only did they create anthems that people have been listening for years but they revived a culture that seemed to be dying. They partied hard and gave a lot of people a reason to smile.

I believe but don’t quote me on this, that besides Thriller, Back in Black was the highest selling album from the 80s. The guitar riffs, the lyrics, just everything about those songs makes you want to have a good time.

I am not saying that all music should be happy and fun. What I am saying is that these songs have staying power. In thirty years people are still going to be listening Guns N’ Roses, AC/DC, ZZ Top, Billy Joel, etc. I don’t think popular appeal should matter all that much either. However, it is really hard to argue for something to be on a top ten list that seems like it has fallen off the face of the earth. Personally I blame the radio. I mean the only classic culture that I can listen to is classic rock. An alternative station from the 80s would be nice. I just haven’t had the same type of exposure to it. I mean I love music and I love to sit and explore new things, but I have a lot of stuff I have to do. Somehow it just becomes easier to determine what you like when you can here something when your on the move, without having to pay for it.

]]> By: cwod http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1806 cwod Sun, 27 Apr 2008 15:29:14 +0000 http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1806 I disagree. Who cares what was popular among the masses? When we look back at other art forms, we don't use popularity or appeal as a primary criterion. If you were to compile a list of the best American writers of the 19th century, you'd see Melville and Hawthorne near the top, not Longfellow or Stowe, two immensely more popular, commercially successful writers. When you privilege popularity, you must sacrifice quality almost necessarily. And all the bands I listed were pretty culturally significant, just not in America. Thriller is pretty sweet. Also, great songs? Guns N Roses? AC/DC? Really? We're debating musical quality, not egos and testosterone levels. I disagree. Who cares what was popular among the masses? When we look back at other art forms, we don’t use popularity or appeal as a primary criterion. If you were to compile a list of the best American writers of the 19th century, you’d see Melville and Hawthorne near the top, not Longfellow or Stowe, two immensely more popular, commercially successful writers. When you privilege popularity, you must sacrifice quality almost necessarily.

And all the bands I listed were pretty culturally significant, just not in America.

Thriller is pretty sweet.

Also, great songs? Guns N Roses? AC/DC? Really? We’re debating musical quality, not egos and testosterone levels.

]]> By: Shaka http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1805 Shaka Sun, 27 Apr 2008 01:00:34 +0000 http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1805 Sonic Youth, The Pixies, The Smiths, and Joy Division should NOT be on the list. While these bands are important in hindsight, they were not significant to the 80s as a whole. Furthermore when creating a top 10 list I would use the equation Great Songs + Widespread Appeal = Best Album List. Many of the bands c-wod listed would fall into the "if a tree fell in a forest" area of music. Moreover...WHERE IS THRILLER. I realized for the first time this site is quite backward when a debate is over the inclusion of The Pixies, when an album like Thriller isn't even on the list. I actually once again somewhat agree with the list, I would take off ZZ Top, Tom Petty, Billy Joel, and maybe Van Halen. Albums such as Purple Rain, Thriller, or Double Fantasy would be more deserving. But in the spirit of c-wod.com.....WHERE ARE THE MINUTEMEN'S "Double Nickels On The Dime"?!?!?! Sonic Youth, The Pixies, The Smiths, and Joy Division should NOT be on the list. While these bands are important in hindsight, they were not significant to the 80s as a whole.

Furthermore when creating a top 10 list I would use the equation Great Songs + Widespread Appeal = Best Album List. Many of the bands c-wod listed would fall into the “if a tree fell in a forest” area of music.

Moreover…WHERE IS THRILLER. I realized for the first time this site is quite backward when a debate is over the inclusion of The Pixies, when an album like Thriller isn’t even on the list.

I actually once again somewhat agree with the list, I would take off ZZ Top, Tom Petty, Billy Joel, and maybe Van Halen. Albums such as Purple Rain, Thriller, or Double Fantasy would be more deserving.

But in the spirit of c-wod.com…..WHERE ARE THE MINUTEMEN’S “Double Nickels On The Dime”?!?!?!

]]> By: Billy Gibbons http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1804 Billy Gibbons Fri, 25 Apr 2008 03:31:17 +0000 http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1804 The Pixies don't have a cool 1933 Ford hot rod like I do. The Pixies don’t have a cool 1933 Ford hot rod like I do.

]]> By: cwod http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1803 cwod Thu, 24 Apr 2008 23:25:29 +0000 http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1803 You have to listen to Surfer Rosa like it's 1988 again. Of course it didn't blow you away. That's because everyone since then has ripped them off. I mean, I'm not a huge Pixies fan, but they're a pretty big deal. You have to listen to Surfer Rosa like it’s 1988 again. Of course it didn’t blow you away. That’s because everyone since then has ripped them off.

I mean, I’m not a huge Pixies fan, but they’re a pretty big deal.

]]> By: Sheppard http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1802 Sheppard Thu, 24 Apr 2008 21:20:36 +0000 http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1802 C-wod getting feisty, I like it. I know that Rivers was influenced by the Pixies however he adopted a music different lyrical style than Frank Black. I did spend the afternoon listening to Surfer Rosa and Bossanova and I have to say that neither album blew me away. I can certainly see where Cobain adopted some of their rhythms and particularly their messy style. However, Cobain's lyrics made significantly more sense. Black just comes off as way too aggressive and he made me feel uncomfortable at times. C-wod getting feisty, I like it. I know that Rivers was influenced by the Pixies however he adopted a music different lyrical style than Frank Black. I did spend the afternoon listening to Surfer Rosa and Bossanova and I have to say that neither album blew me away. I can certainly see where Cobain adopted some of their rhythms and particularly their messy style. However, Cobain’s lyrics made significantly more sense. Black just comes off as way too aggressive and he made me feel uncomfortable at times.

]]> By: cwod http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1801 cwod Thu, 24 Apr 2008 17:33:19 +0000 http://www.c-wod.com/2008/04/best-albums-of-the-80s/#comment-1801 You're wrong. Think of all the bands spawned by the Pixies. That includes Nirvana. Kurt Cobain admitted to trying to rip them off. Even your beloved Rivers has cited them as one of his primary influences. I'd say almost all of 90s rock owes something, whether directly or indirectly, to Frank Black and company. Actually, Corgan might be exempt from that generalization. R.E.M.'s Murmur is way more influential/groundbreaking/important/culturally significant than Green. Obviously, I do love your having Master of Puppets on the list, which some think is the best metal album ever. I personally prefer And Justice for All, but that's just because I love the long, long, long songs. And I think Fred Durst killed "Welcome Home (Sanitarium)" for me. You’re wrong.

Think of all the bands spawned by the Pixies. That includes Nirvana. Kurt Cobain admitted to trying to rip them off. Even your beloved Rivers has cited them as one of his primary influences. I’d say almost all of 90s rock owes something, whether directly or indirectly, to Frank Black and company.

Actually, Corgan might be exempt from that generalization.

R.E.M.’s Murmur is way more influential/groundbreaking/important/culturally significant than Green.

Obviously, I do love your having Master of Puppets on the list, which some think is the best metal album ever. I personally prefer And Justice for All, but that’s just because I love the long, long, long songs. And I think Fred Durst killed “Welcome Home (Sanitarium)” for me.

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